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5119 vs. 5196 Dec 03, 2007,14:42 PM  

Torn between buying one of these. 

I like the 5196 for it's somewhat cool retro simplicity, but the 5119 seems more eye catching and really like the exhibition back (which the 5196 does not have).  But also appreciate the understated detail of the minute and hour markers on the 5196.

Is one more quintessential PP?

Seems like the 5196 currently is much more difficult to find, and I'm told that the 5196WG has been discontinued...does that increase it's value?  Any thoughts about their respective future worth?

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Show profile Show other posts Send PM 5119 vs. 5196    By: ange : December 3rd, 2007-14:42 Torn between buying one of these. I like the 5196 for it's somewhat cool retro simplicity, but the 5119 seems more eye catching and really like the exhibition back (which the 5196 does not have). But also appreciate the understated detail of the minute an...  login to reply Show profile Show other posts Send PM This vs that    By: watch-guy.com : December 3rd, 2007-15:09 I heard the 5196 will be worth a mint in a few years time and would buy as many as possible Do me a favour buy what you want . Enough this or that. They are both magnificent watches and you should buy the one that you like. It is not rocket science guys!!...  login to reply Show profile Show other posts Send PM thanks    By: ange : December 3rd, 2007-15:17 get it...like them both....just trying to get a little educated......can you elaborate on why they'll be "worth a mint" in the future? login to reply Show profile Show other posts Send PM I was being facetious!!Difficult to communicate without being face to face!    By: watch-guy.com : December 3rd, 2007-15:27 m login to reply Show profile Show other posts Send PM I agree that    By: johnsinger56 : December 3rd, 2007-19:09 you should just buy whichever one you like the best. Definitely not a good idea to buy thinking that it will increase in value later. Buying this or that watch for investment is a bad idea in my opinion. Which one will you enjoy wearing the most? login to reply Show profile Show other posts Send PM you're right, but...    By: ange : December 3rd, 2007-19:47 that's what's difficult....I like them both for different reasons....I like the 5196 because I like the cool retro look and it seems like it would be more versitile, while the 5119 looks more dressy, but I like that too. One thing I really like is the exh...  login to reply Show profile Show other posts Send PM Two good choices    By: William C : December 4th, 2007-06:13 Aside from the very on target points that have already been made, your choice may be a bit difficult as you have narrowed the selection down to the two most "classic" current models. While individuals may prefer, or dislike, features like crown guards, un...  login to reply Show profile Show other posts Send PM thanks....    By: ange : December 4th, 2007-09:03 william c...appreciate your insight....especially w/r/t value, etc. Your comments were really helpful. Actually, I've been thinking that perhaps the solution is to (eventually) have both......neither will disappoint, so I'll just have to figure out which ...  login to reply Show profile Show other posts Send PM An opinion    By: vitalsigns : December 5th, 2007-20:45 Obviously try both on your wrist and then decide, but the 5119 for me is a much more dressy piece than the 5196. IMO, the 5196 could be worn with both dressy as well as more casual attire--that's the primary differentiating point for me. I would much pref...  login to reply Show profile Show other posts Send PM terrible twos    By: masterspiece : December 6th, 2007-11:37 Both are good choices. I like the simple, clean look that each of them offer, however, as far as the 5196 platinum goes, that is a totally different look. I prefer the 5196P over its siblings but, alas, no exhibition back and no deployant. I'll jump in in...  login to reply Show profile Show other posts Send PM thanks guys...    By: ange : December 6th, 2007-13:07 john and bob..thanks....yes not a bad problem to have and really it comes down to liking the 19 for its versatility and 96 for its elegance and exhibition back.......like them both, but seem to always go back to the 19, and I think that's what I'll end up...  login to reply Show profile Show other posts Send PM no problem ange!    By: masterspiece : December 6th, 2007-15:03 Simple is always good. In addition to its simplicity, the 5196s offer an elegance that is stealth-like. If you want a watch "just for show", there are "other" brands that your everyday person would recognize or drop their jaws upon hearing its name. But t...  login to reply Show profile Show other posts Send PM 5196 P    By: Paul C. : December 7th, 2007-10:39 login to reply Show profile Show other posts Send PM this is what I did    By: victorltd : December 8th, 2007-10:50 when I was in the exact same situation as you. I bought the 5196 because giving up the exibition back on a 215 movement for a watch I would wear a lot more, was a good trade. I wear the watch with jeans and a nice shirt or sweater all the way up to a suit...  login to reply Show profile Show other posts Send PM agree, victor    By: ange : December 10th, 2007-19:03 login to reply



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Brand Name: Patek Philippe Style Number: 5153J Series: Calatrava Subseries: Officers watch Style (Gender): Men's Case Material: 18k Yellow Gold Officer's style Dial Color: Silvery Opaline, hand guilloche sunburst Movement: Self winding mechanical (Automatic), Geneva Seal Hallmark Engine: Patek Philippe Caliber 324 S C (28,800vph, 213 parts) Number of Jewels: 29 Functions: Hours, Minutes, Center Sweep Second, Date Crystal Material: Sapphire - Anti Reflective Case Diameter: 38.0 mm Caseback: Sapphire Crystal - Transparent Exhibition Back (below hinged dust cover) Bezel Material: 18k Yellow Gold Bezel Function: Fixed Water Resistance: 30m / 100ft (unsuitable for prolonged contact with water e.g. swimming, bathing) Crown Material: 18k Yellow Gold Fluted Royal Crown, Two Position, with relief embossed Calatrava Cross Calendar: Date at 3 Power Reserve: 45-Hour Power Reserve Watch Bracelet / Strap Material: Leather - Brown Crocodile Watch Clasp Material: 18k Yellow Gold Deployant Calatrava Foldover Max Wrist Size: 8.0 Warranty: ORIGINAL PP WARRANTY First Production Year: 2009 FREE bracelet resizing. Learn more.

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Watch Details Brand Name: Patek Philippe Style Number: 5153J Series: Calatrava Subseries: Officers watch Style (Gender): Men's Case Material: 18k Yellow Gold Officer's style Dial Color: Silvery Opaline, hand guilloche sunburst Movement: Self winding mechanical (Automatic), Geneva Seal Hallmark Engine: Patek Philippe Caliber 324 S C (28,800vph, 213 parts) Number of Jewels: 29 Functions: Hours, Minutes, Center Sweep Second, Date Crystal Material: Sapphire - Anti Reflective Case Diameter: 38.0 mm Caseback: Sapphire Crystal - Transparent Exhibition Back (below hinged dust cover) Bezel Material: 18k Yellow Gold Bezel Function: Fixed Water Resistance: 30m / 100ft (unsuitable for prolonged contact with water e.g. swimming, bathing) Crown Material: 18k Yellow Gold Fluted Royal Crown, Two Position, with relief embossed Calatrava Cross Calendar: Date at 3 Power Reserve: 45-Hour Power Reserve Watch Bracelet / Strap Material: Leather - Brown Crocodile Watch Clasp Material: 18k Yellow Gold Deployant Calatrava Foldover Max Wrist Size: 8.0 Warranty: ORIGINAL PP WARRANTY First Production Year: 2009 FREE bracelet resizing. Learn more. About Patek Philippe Watchmaker Antoni Patek started making pocket watches in 1839 in Geneva, along with his fellow Polish migrant Franciszek Czapek. They separated in 1844, and in 1845 Patek joined with the French watchmaker Adrien Philippe, inventor of the keyless winding mechanism. Patek Philippe & Co was founded in 1851.

Patek Philippe made the first wrist-watch in 1868. The company pioneered the perpetual calendar, split-seconds hand, chronograph, and minute repeater in watches.

Like other Swiss manufacturers, the company produces mostly mechanical movements of the automatic and manual wind variety, but has produced quartz watches in the past, and a digital wrist watch, the Ref. 3414.

Patek Philippe is notable for manufacturing its own watch components. Patek Philippe timepieces have recorded some of the highest prices in worldwide auctions. The company produces about 40,000 watches annually. Patek Philippe has been owned by the Stern family since 1932. It is presently run by Thierry Stern.

No other watch brand compares in prestige to the storied Patek Philippe. While brands like A. Lange & Sohne, Jaeger LeCoultre and Vacheron Constantin may aspire to the coveted reputation of Patek Philippe, none come close to the desirability of owning a Patek. Watches produced by Patek are considered by many collectors to be recession proof. Timepieces produced as recently as the 1950s and 1960s routinely sell for over a million dollars at auction.

Patek offers an extensive collection of watches including the Calatrava, Twenty4, Golden Ellipse, Gondolo, Aquanaut, Nautilus and of course its complicated watches including Grand Complications that feature celestial charts, minute repeaters and perpetual calendars. In short, Patek Philippe is unrivaled in all of watchmaking. This watch is the Patek Philippe Calatrava Officers watch 5153J. View Other Watch Series by Patek Philippe Gondolo World Time Annual Calendar Regulator Aquanaut Celestial Complication Sky Moon Classic Chronograph Calatrava Pilot Travel Time Golden Elipse Split Seconds Chronograph Grand Complication Complications Gondolo World Time Annual Calendar Regulator Aquanaut Celestial Complication Sky Moon Classic Chronograph Calatrava Pilot Travel Time Golden Elipse Split Seconds Chronograph Grand Complication Complications Other Watches You Might Like Patek Philippe Calatrava Men's Watch 5153G-001 $28,900.00 $34,400.00 Patek Philippe Calatrava Men's Watch 5153G-001 $28,900.00 $34,400.00 100% Authentic This watch is guaranteed 100% authentic, has original serial numbers and is shipped in factory-fresh, brand new, unworn condition with all manufacturer documentation and packaging. Package contains watch manufacturer's certificate of authenticity (if such certificate is applicable, and provided by the manufacturer), tags, stickers, boxes, and user manuals. 30 Day Returns We will gladly accept returns within 30 days of receipt of delivery. Watches must be returned to us in brand new, unworn and undamaged condition. All domestic purchases showing as "In Stock" under $3000 will receive a full refund minus shipping fees. A 10% restocking fee will apply on all other orders. Read more. Free Shipping Gemnation ships your domestic order free via FedEx/UPS Insured Standard Delivery (3-5 days) after your order has been processed. Please read the additional information section next to the watch to determine processing times. Watches that cost less than $200, will be shipped via FedEx/UPS Ground. Read more. Two Year Warranty We sell luxury timepieces at considerably lower prices than the manufacturers list price. Gemnation is not an Authorized Patek Philippe Watch Dealer and is not affiliated with Patek Philippe. Authorized dealers are not permitted to discount or sell watches on the Internet. For this reason, we choose not to be authorized watch dealers for many of the brands that we sell. Since we are not authorized dealers for many of the watch manufacturers, we may be unable to ship the original watch manufacturers warranty. In all cases, however, we provide a Two Year Gemnation Warranty (active from the date of purchase). Gemnation utilizes a full-time Swiss-trained watchmaker who is licensed and trained to repair every brand and model of watch that we sell. If we can supply the original warranty we provide this information in the individual watch description. Read More. Recently Viewed 100% Authentic 30 Day Returns Free Shipping Two Year Warranty

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We will gladly accept returns within 30 days of receipt of delivery. Watches must be returned to us in brand new, unworn and undamaged condition. All domestic purchases showing as "In Stock" under $3000 will receive a full refund minus shipping fees. A 10% restocking fee will apply on all other orders. Read more.

Gemnation ships your domestic order free via FedEx/UPS Insured Standard Delivery (3-5 days) after your order has been processed. Please read the additional information section next to the watch to determine processing times. Watches that cost less than $200, will be shipped via FedEx/UPS Ground. Read more.

We sell luxury timepieces at considerably lower prices than the manufacturers list price. Gemnation is not an Authorized Patek Philippe Watch Dealer and is not affiliated with Patek Philippe. Authorized dealers are not permitted to discount or sell watches on the Internet. For this reason, we choose not to be authorized watch dealers for many of the brands that we sell. Since we are not authorized dealers for many of the watch manufacturers, we may be unable to ship the original watch manufacturers warranty. In all cases, however, we provide a Two Year Gemnation Warranty (active from the date of purchase). Gemnation utilizes a full-time Swiss-trained watchmaker who is licensed and trained to repair every brand and model of watch that we sell. If we can supply the original warranty we provide this information in the individual watch description. Read More.